what is needed more than anything is the option of right clicking on anything on the homepage and removing it from the homepage, there are many choices on my homepage i would like to remove but i don`t know how, and youtube isn`t easily giving out information on how to alter the settings to set up the homepage how we the user wants it, try the xp approach, start with a blank page and a single button in the corner saying settings, and then let us users sort out what we want on the home page.
Did Google's design team take over Youtube's design department? Because just like Google, Youtube has lost touch with the poor main/front page design (google with their silly instant on, thumbnail preview and slimmer page structure which doesn't take advantage of the fact that millions now have widescreen).
Seriously, how about letting a few thousand people test a new design out and give you feedback instead of just forcing crappy designs on people?!
I have to agree with almost everyone here, the new page sucks.
i understand separating the different channels but you are just wasting space, and dont grey out watched videos, just remove them, if we want to see them again we can go into the subscriptions place. the old page was a million times better. i hate scrolling down to see all my videos and having to X out ones that i've already seen just so i dont have to scroll down everytime. Everyone is trying to change all of a sudden, and alot of people are failing, you can add yourselves to the list Youtube
Errr... Are there any humans working @ Youtube that actually read feedback on what they do?....err, to improve things?...see what the USERS want?...No? .. oh well, silly me, I forgot... of course, just like Ebay you've got too big for your balls and have lost sight of the people who made you what you are... US !!
Personally i liked the really old one with just a string of featured videos that were picked by youtube, some of those videos i would have never watched or searched for had they not been there and also i used to think i wish they would pick mine then thousands of people would watch my video that would never search it so it was something people used to sort of "dream about" in an odd way but now its all 'personal" why do we want personal we no what we want to see we search it and see it.
From the YouTube community and the general response here on facebook posts it is clear no one wants this change. We've had long enough to 'get used to it' but that's just not been the case. Personally i dislike that i'm having to scroll down for videos i want to watch, the old grid was brilliant. it required no or very little scrolling, i can clearly see everyone and untick the ones i don't want to watch. you claim to make it easier and more personal, but it's done the opposite. It was more personalized in the grid as we can quickly and easily rid of any unwanted videos.
I really don't get the new YouTube. The older verison was straight forward and well organised. Could we not have the older version, because I've had trouble loading some videos. the red bar loads before the video has properly buffered. Please, Please, PLEASE consider using the older version x
You are just determined to change it. Don't pretend it's for our benefit. This is all down to you trying to direct the user's experience and go for the short-end money. Typical, as soon as the corporate bigwigs and their statistics get involved.
I cannot get the videos I have watched, as before. There is no obvious way to avoid being pumped with advertising, marketing and popular content that YOU want me to see. I do not want to be prompted to link into other sites, I just want to see videos that I choose and at the most have similar videos suggested a la Amazon.
As said before, this change is hideous and I hope you get shot down in flames once again. If you really cared about user response coming in "loud and clear" take a look at these comments and get the message.
WE DON"T LIKE THE CHANGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
enough is enough. - bad layout - waste of space - harder to navigate - tells you what you have done (redundant) - looks worse - community doesn't like it - the whole right side of the page is ether insulting to me (trending*) or a waste of space that could be used to make a entirely new layout far superior to any previous layouts
* trending is insulting to me as you are forcing me to view what you consider trends and what to be honest, I consider absolute S***, what I consider trends that me and my friends follow are almost flat opposites of what appears there 99 percent of the time. and that goes for the whole right hand side of page, therefore the entire right hand side of the page does nothing but annoy allot of people on youtube, it could be used for something much better.
I don't know what you were thinking when you approved this page, how all of you could even this this looks good at all?
instead of making rubbish pages like this, why don't you make a fluid page for people with wider screens, so you can have more screen real-estate for people to use and find what they want
also I have to mention, its not always the best idea to cram as much as possible into a page, like you have, with messages and other peoples likes also added into uploads, most of the time its better to have sub pages to even tabs at the top of the page to select and view different things like messages and friends faves.
I think the best design you could walk towards would be the one before this(as standard) and then a OPTIONAL customisable fluid design where we can shape it ourselves and discard anything we don't want, and add our own trends and what we want to see on our homepage.
id also like to see some better support for managing large amounts of videos that have been uploaded without using play-lists, maybe some features like mass tag adding and mass name formatting.
I hope you read this and listen to your client base, after all any business will do better by giving there clients what they actually want, not what they think they want. and in the long term it all pays off.
It would be better if we could see the comment/private message count on the homepage like before. Also why has the number of recommended videos gone down so much?
Complete and utter nonsense. Where has my `recommended` videos section gone. Stop trying to fix something that is not broken. Take a leaf out of Google`s homepage and keep it simple. Sack the meddlers and put it back the way it was NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
So, having had the new page for a few days now, here is how I find I am using it: 1. Log in. 2. Switch to 'Subscription uploads' view. 3. Scroll to the bottom. 4. Click 'Load more videos' just in case (because it's not obvious whether some are off the bottom or not, whereas on the old home page it was obvious if there were too many to show because the box of 12 was full). 5. Watch videos from subscriptions, starting from the oldest, like I used to easily on the old home page without steps 2-4. 6. For each video I've watched, click the X to remove it from the home page. (That wasn't necessary before either.) 7. Once they are all gone, switch back to 'All activity' and browse for other interesting (but less important) stuff.
I personally like the 'greyed out' feature, it helps me keep track of what I've watched and what I've missed. I often missed videos on the old homepage.
HOWEVER, The Feed-style homepage works only with things like statuses and textual updates - things that are a) landscape, and so fit into a vertical list nicely, and b) of equal value to the viewer - very few people on youtube care what their subscriptions liked or commented on, especially if that channel is something like IGN.
A proposal for a possible design that incorporates the features people like:
Top - Logo. Search Bar. As usual.
Next - Advert, since we understand that youtube needs revenue. The important bit is being able to close the advert. So far I don't mind the ads on youtube, just the ones before videos that you have to watch, and the "skip ad" button solves that issue.
Then - Subscriptions box, in the style everyone here liked. Keep the greying out of watched videos, and sort them by date. At the moment the feed style homepage doesn't work because the "See more" button means that you're not even viewing all the information at once, which is the idea of a feed. Also, the subs box solves the annoying scrolling and space wasting issues.
Next - Reccommended for you box. Or suggestions, whichever name you prefer.
Basically the subs box is the thing everyone misses. It kept the homepage uncluttered and yet showed all your favourite uploads in a quick and easy way. Youtube works on a different experience than Facebook or Twitter, and the experience needs to reflect that.
However, the practice of ignoring users does not. Please, please listen to us.
Befor I could see 8 of the latest videos from the people IM subscribed to, 8 videos recommended to ME, videos that are populare that I might like and there MY friends activatys at the bottom and MY inbox etc and the right. Now I see a complete mess, that looks horrible, where getting anything I want is imposible and one that makes the homepage useless. I hate it 100% and hope the person/ team who made this are fired by now.
No. Just, no. For the happiness of your users, please change the homepage back. It's cluttered. It's confusing. More than ever it's inconvenient and painful on the eyes. An absolute mess. What the hell is it with "All Activity?" The most horrendous page of all.
On the behalf of I am sure many other people who are displeased with this new layout I would like to point out the following complaints:
1) A lot of us only care about seeing videos in their inbox from their subscriptions. Not all this other crap about what their subscribers liked or faved. Just because their subs have enjoyed a particular video it doesn't mean their watchers will too.
2) I've noticed that my subscribed videos, catergorized under the users who have uploaded them (unnecessary), are sometimes duplicated under separate headings. This is confusing and makes things more complicated than they should be.
2) The comments used to be easy to find on the home page like they used to. Instead of scrolling down I now have to make a few extra clicks which is unnecessary.
3) Sometimes there's a glitch and my subscriptions are "temporarily unavailable". I have to refresh the page to make them load properly.
4) When I don't see any new vids from my subscriptions I am bombarded with videos under "Most Popular". With the old Homepage I had the option to hide these, because they do not interest me. Now, I can't and I would very much like to.
5) Not so much a complaint as a suggestion. Fire whoever designed this layout. That is all.
Why are you such damn liars? You said you listen to our feedback, but you're completely ignoring it. Nobody likes the new home page. In fact almost everyone hates the abomination. Change it back to the previous version and stop meddling with it!
Will there be any kind of youtube comment to respond to all of these critisisms? For some reason, I doubt it. The next blog post is hardly going to be "Oops, we screwed up, lets change it back"
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Are you kidding me! I started using a link straight to the subscriptions and they've added a recommended channels tab. It's like they're going out of their way to show me a bunch of cr*p I don't want to see.
IF I WANTED TO WATCH THEIR CHANNELS I WOULD ALREADY BE SUB'D!!!!!
Please change it back its awful... stop ruining Youtube!
I am finding it hard to you youtube now. Please chanage it back. The old verson was mush easier to use. I think you have just killed Youtube with the new homepage. I also think the way how you inficked the new homepage on to user was unfail.
It seems to me that all what you are trying to do is to push power user and most popular users. What this will lead to is people like Ijustin standing at the top. You have made it harder for user that are new to the site to get recognise.
I find it harder now to find my videos, and the scrolling down to find the video that I want to watch, has made it both annoying and frustrating. I feel that user should know where the links and videos are, users should not have to find content.
The only one good thing that I can say about the new homepage is the load more. I think if you put this feature on the old homepage it would have improved it.
thanks, I know I even asked for a recommendations tab (well tabs in general as a suggestion to unclutter the homepage) in my post a bit further up, but leaving the rest as it is is not enough since my suggestion was to hint to decluttering the rest, but it looks just as messy.
you need to listen to the community guys, change it back THEN experiment on a beta that people can check and give feedback to, NOT scramble and try to fix this major f up that is this homepage.
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absolutely crap, wtf were you thinking when you change it. You keep on doing it, i think everyone liked the old one. You keep on ruining youtube, one day you will have no one going on it...
YOUTUBE, you must take into account what your users are saying. I'm sure you've noticed your earnings drop, as we YouTubers/Partners have noticed our views/earnings drop too. All this is because the new Homepage ISN'T USER FRIENDLY. It would be ok if the Subscription Uploads were on default when you view the Homepage and the old grid style layout of the Subscriptions comes back. This design as it is, is ruining all our hard work as we're losing ALOT of views, Comments, Ratings etc.PLEASE FIX THIS.
Its not about what you think is better for us its about what we think is better for us. I wish Steve Chen, Jawed Karim, and Chad Hurley still owned youtube instead of selling it to you "google" for 1.6 billion dollars of whatever. I understand your trying to make youtube better but by forcing us to enjoy it isn't going to work.
its not about what you think is better for us its about what we think is better for us. I wish Steve Chen, Jawed Karim, and Chad Hurley still owned youtube instead of selling it to you "google" for 1.6 billion dollars of whatever. I understand your trying to make youtube better but by forcing us to enjoy it isn't going to work.
I REALLY REALLY REALLY HATE THE NEW HOME PAGE. WHY DON"T WE HAVE AN OPTION TO KEEP THE OLD PAGE? I CAN SEE THAT MY FRIENDS, ALSO, ARE NOT USING YOUTUBE AS MUCH AS BEFORE. I LIKED HAVING A LOT MORE RECOMMENDATIONS THAN 12. I USED IT AS A JUMPING OFF POINT TO FIND NEW AND INTERESTING AVENUES. BUT NOW, WITH THE LIMITED NUMBER OF RECOMMENDED SELECTIONS, IT'S JUST REALLY BORING AND I FEEL LIKE I DON'T WANT TO VISIT YOUTUBE NEARLY AS MUCH. CHANGE IT BACK.
Still hating this stupid layout. Whats the point of still having my previously watched subscriptions on the main homepage. Please Please at least sort this im having to sift through my own subscriptions just to not watch the same videos twice. Sort it.
9th Feb 21.30gmt ROFL - Well blow me down, it looks as if the borg we minions call YouTube have actually read these comments and decided to change their home page. :-)
Well done YT.
PS Here's a tip for the next roll out. Liaise with your customers (that's us - the little people), and also give the option of letting us (the user) decide what WE want.
The little envelope appearing when you have a new message, invite, or whatever doesn't work. It often doesn't recognize the message or whatever as being viewed and all the time doesn't show certain things like friend invites. Sort that out and I'll be happier. Other than that it's alright. I prefer the old one but it could be worse.
Thankyou YouTube. I am used to the new channel page now, but I hope that this incessant fiddling what what actually works shall be the last. for me the latest YouTube anomaly is the no-playing of videos, where one just gets a blck screen with audio. We are told to delete the cache, go to the player settings, etc., but the sad fact is that it is only on the YouTube site that this problem is being experienced, not Facebook, not MySpace, or any other video-sharing website! This suggests that Once again, the YT operators have been fiddling around with vidoes once more; not being content with taking-away the HQ resolution of some vids and plastering ads all over the channel. Bad management is the problem with tjhis site, and the inability or unwillingness to lsiten to its customers (unless they are paying ones that is)
The new homepage is horrid,it was fine and allot more functional as it was before.Also it seems my recommendations have gone to pot it's recommending me stuff I have no interest in whatsoever.
I tried to live with it but it's so un-user friendly.
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what is needed more than anything is the option of right clicking on anything on the homepage and removing it from the homepage, there are many choices on my homepage i would like to remove but i don`t know how, and youtube isn`t easily giving out information on how to alter the settings to set up the homepage how we the user wants it, try the xp approach, start with a blank page and a single button in the corner saying settings, and then let us users sort out what we want on the home page.
ReplyDeleteIt's an absolute mess. Why can't there be an option to combine feeds to show most recent uploads like before rather than split by each channel?
ReplyDeleteChange it back please!!
ReplyDeleteI preferred being able to look at the videos together, plus having recommended videos, where I would often find really interesting videos too...
Agree with Rob Smyth, remove a video, then it reappears...
CHANGE IT BACK PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did Google's design team take over Youtube's design department? Because just like Google, Youtube has lost touch with the poor main/front page design (google with their silly instant on, thumbnail preview and slimmer page structure which doesn't take advantage of the fact that millions now have widescreen).
ReplyDeleteSeriously, how about letting a few thousand people test a new design out and give you feedback instead of just forcing crappy designs on people?!
SACK THE DESIGNERS!!!!!!!! HORRIBLE UID!
If it ain't broke don't fix it. This is broke so fix it. Old page back please and whoever comes up with these 'improvements', sack them!
ReplyDeleteWow joel thanks for such a great link to the script...
ReplyDeleteeveryone who hates the new homepage try this....its a doozy
((Joel said...
Those who want the old user layout back, atleast if your using firefox. Install an addon called "greasemonkey" and activate this script.
http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/95080
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Proof here.
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I have to agree with almost everyone here, the new page sucks.
ReplyDeletei understand separating the different channels but you are just wasting space, and dont grey out watched videos, just remove them, if we want to see them again we can go into the subscriptions place. the old page was a million times better. i hate scrolling down to see all my videos and having to X out ones that i've already seen just so i dont have to scroll down everytime.
Everyone is trying to change all of a sudden, and alot of people are failing, you can add yourselves to the list Youtube
CHANGE IT BACK
ReplyDeleteErrr... Are there any humans working @ Youtube that actually read feedback on what they do?....err, to improve things?...see what the USERS want?...No? .. oh well, silly me, I forgot... of course, just like Ebay you've got too big for your balls and have lost sight of the people who made you what you are... US !!
ReplyDeleteWhat retard came up with this cretinous scheme?
ReplyDeleteI hope you're using the feedback from this blog as one of your 'User Surveys'
Personally i liked the really old one with just a string of featured videos that were picked by youtube, some of those videos i would have never watched or searched for had they not been there and also i used to think i wish they would pick mine then thousands of people would watch my video that would never search it so it was something people used to sort of "dream about" in an odd way but now its all 'personal" why do we want personal we no what we want to see we search it and see it.
ReplyDeleteGO BACK 2 YEARS PLEASE
From the YouTube community and the general response here on facebook posts it is clear no one wants this change. We've had long enough to 'get used to it' but that's just not been the case. Personally i dislike that i'm having to scroll down for videos i want to watch, the old grid was brilliant. it required no or very little scrolling, i can clearly see everyone and untick the ones i don't want to watch. you claim to make it easier and more personal, but it's done the opposite. It was more personalized in the grid as we can quickly and easily rid of any unwanted videos.
ReplyDeletePlease change it back.
I really don't get the new YouTube.
ReplyDeleteThe older verison was straight forward and well organised.
Could we not have the older version, because I've had trouble loading some videos. the red bar loads before the video has properly buffered.
Please, Please, PLEASE consider using the older version x
It does not work :-(
ReplyDeleteMore I play with this new home page the more I find that does not work. I unsubscribed days ago from a few channels and they still appear on my page.
You are just determined to change it. Don't pretend it's for our benefit. This is all down to you trying to direct the user's experience and go for the short-end money. Typical, as soon as the corporate bigwigs and their statistics get involved.
ReplyDeleteI cannot get the videos I have watched, as before. There is no obvious way to avoid being pumped with advertising, marketing and popular content that YOU want me to see. I do not want to be prompted to link into other sites, I just want to see videos that I choose and at the most have similar videos suggested a la Amazon.
As said before, this change is hideous and I hope you get shot down in flames once again. If you really cared about user response coming in "loud and clear" take a look at these comments and get the message.
WE DON"T LIKE THE CHANGES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes I think this is a no no.
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enough is enough.
ReplyDelete- bad layout
- waste of space
- harder to navigate
- tells you what you have done (redundant)
- looks worse
- community doesn't like it
- the whole right side of the page is ether insulting to me (trending*) or a waste of space that could be used to make a entirely new layout far superior to any previous layouts
* trending is insulting to me as you are forcing me to view what you consider trends and what to be honest, I consider absolute S***, what I consider trends that me and my friends follow are almost flat opposites of what appears there 99 percent of the time. and that goes for the whole right hand side of page, therefore the entire right hand side of the page does nothing but annoy allot of people on youtube, it could be used for something much better.
I don't know what you were thinking when you approved this page, how all of you could even this this looks good at all?
instead of making rubbish pages like this, why don't you make a fluid page for people with wider screens, so you can have more screen real-estate for people to use and find what they want
also I have to mention, its not always the best idea to cram as much as possible into a page, like you have, with messages and other peoples likes also added into uploads, most of the time its better to have sub pages to even tabs at the top of the page to select and view different things like messages and friends faves.
I think the best design you could walk towards would be the one before this(as standard) and then a OPTIONAL customisable fluid design where we can shape it ourselves and discard anything we don't want, and add our own trends and what we want to see on our homepage.
id also like to see some better support for managing large amounts of videos that have been uploaded without using play-lists, maybe some features like mass tag adding and mass name formatting.
I hope you read this and listen to your client base, after all any business will do better by giving there clients what they actually want, not what they think they want. and in the long term it all pays off.
It would be better if we could see the comment/private message count on the homepage like before.
ReplyDeleteAlso why has the number of recommended videos gone down so much?
Complete and utter nonsense. Where has my `recommended` videos
ReplyDeletesection gone. Stop trying to fix something that is not broken. Take a leaf out of Google`s homepage and keep it simple.
Sack the meddlers and put it back the way it was NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
The layout is fragmented, making it far harder to scan easily. I've resorted to only watching youtube on my ipad as the interface hasnt changed yet.
ReplyDeleteCould we not have an opt in to the old one, like a reverse of the beta opt-in?
So, having had the new page for a few days now, here is how I find I am using it:
ReplyDelete1. Log in.
2. Switch to 'Subscription uploads' view.
3. Scroll to the bottom.
4. Click 'Load more videos' just in case (because it's not obvious whether some are off the bottom or not, whereas on the old home page it was obvious if there were too many to show because the box of 12 was full).
5. Watch videos from subscriptions, starting from the oldest, like I used to easily on the old home page without steps 2-4.
6. For each video I've watched, click the X to remove it from the home page. (That wasn't necessary before either.)
7. Once they are all gone, switch back to 'All activity' and browse for other interesting (but less important) stuff.
The single feed idea is just wrong. Period.
THIS IS A QUOTE FROM YOUTUBE.
ReplyDelete"As always, we’ll be listening and taking your feedback very seriously. Posted by the YouTube team."
SO NOT TRUE.
Just to add my two cents -
ReplyDeleteI personally like the 'greyed out' feature, it helps me keep track of what I've watched and what I've missed. I often missed videos on the old homepage.
HOWEVER, The Feed-style homepage works only with things like statuses and textual updates - things that are a) landscape, and so fit into a vertical list nicely, and b) of equal value to the viewer - very few people on youtube care what their subscriptions liked or commented on, especially if that channel is something like IGN.
A proposal for a possible design that incorporates the features people like:
Top - Logo. Search Bar. As usual.
Next - Advert, since we understand that youtube needs revenue. The important bit is being able to close the advert. So far I don't mind the ads on youtube, just the ones before videos that you have to watch, and the "skip ad" button solves that issue.
Then - Subscriptions box, in the style everyone here liked. Keep the greying out of watched videos, and sort them by date. At the moment the feed style homepage doesn't work because the "See more" button means that you're not even viewing all the information at once, which is the idea of a feed. Also, the subs box solves the annoying scrolling and space wasting issues.
Next - Reccommended for you box. Or suggestions, whichever name you prefer.
Basically the subs box is the thing everyone misses. It kept the homepage uncluttered and yet showed all your favourite uploads in a quick and easy way. Youtube works on a different experience than Facebook or Twitter, and the experience needs to reflect that.
However, the practice of ignoring users does not. Please, please listen to us.
WTF YouTube! You've done it again. Forced an unwanted change on everyone.
ReplyDeleteThe new homepage sucks.
I dont have any suggested videos to watch, so my videos wont be watched by anyone else.
I cant customise it like I had the last one.
Brian :)
Befor I could see 8 of the latest videos from the people IM subscribed to, 8 videos recommended to ME, videos that are populare that I might like and there MY friends activatys at the bottom and MY inbox etc and the right. Now I see a complete mess, that looks horrible, where getting anything I want is imposible and one that makes the homepage useless. I hate it 100% and hope the person/ team who made this are fired by now.
ReplyDeleteNo. Just, no. For the happiness of your users, please change the homepage back. It's cluttered. It's confusing. More than ever it's inconvenient and painful on the eyes. An absolute mess. What the hell is it with "All Activity?" The most horrendous page of all.
ReplyDeleteOn the behalf of I am sure many other people who are displeased with this new layout I would like to point out the following complaints:
1) A lot of us only care about seeing videos in their inbox from their subscriptions. Not all this other crap about what their subscribers liked or faved. Just because their subs have enjoyed a particular video it doesn't mean their watchers will too.
2) I've noticed that my subscribed videos, catergorized under the users who have uploaded them (unnecessary), are sometimes duplicated under separate headings. This is confusing and makes things more complicated than they should be.
2) The comments used to be easy to find on the home page like they used to. Instead of scrolling down I now have to make a few extra clicks which is unnecessary.
3) Sometimes there's a glitch and my subscriptions are "temporarily unavailable". I have to refresh the page to make them load properly.
4) When I don't see any new vids from my subscriptions I am bombarded with videos under "Most Popular". With the old Homepage I had the option to hide these, because they do not interest me. Now, I can't and I would very much like to.
5) Not so much a complaint as a suggestion. Fire whoever designed this layout. That is all.
Why are you such damn liars? You said you listen to our feedback, but you're completely ignoring it. Nobody likes the new home page. In fact almost everyone hates the abomination. Change it back to the previous version and stop meddling with it!
ReplyDeleteWill there be any kind of youtube comment to respond to all of these critisisms? For some reason, I doubt it. The next blog post is hardly going to be "Oops, we screwed up, lets change it back"
ReplyDeleteBut it should be.
IT SUCKS!!!!!! STOP RUINING YOUTUBE!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteyou are just making it worse and more worse...
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im gonna spam until you change it back
I like it now i have got used to it and only when it display uploads of subs only
ReplyDeletewhat are you saying the old one was better so change it back
ReplyDeleteI wrote part of my English essay on this. You never listen to us!
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely, awful.
ReplyDeleteWhy can't we have a choice?
Are you kidding me! I started using a link straight to the subscriptions and they've added a recommended channels tab. It's like they're going out of their way to show me a bunch of cr*p I don't want to see.
ReplyDeleteIF I WANTED TO WATCH THEIR CHANNELS I WOULD ALREADY BE SUB'D!!!!!
Please change it back its awful... stop ruining Youtube!
ReplyDeleteI am finding it hard to you youtube now. Please chanage it back. The old verson was mush easier to use. I think you have just killed Youtube with the new homepage. I also think the way how you inficked the new homepage on to user was unfail.
It seems to me that all what you are trying to do is to push power user and most popular users. What this will lead to is people like Ijustin standing at the top. You have made it harder for user that are new to the site to get recognise.
I find it harder now to find my videos, and the scrolling down to find the video that I want to watch, has made it both annoying and frustrating. I feel that user should know where the links and videos are, users should not have to find content.
The only one good thing that I can say about the new homepage is the load more. I think if you put this feature on the old homepage it would have improved it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxOYXxmbCnI&feature=feedu
The Greasemonkey thing works!
ReplyDeleteIf you won't give us our old homepage back the users will take it back regardless! w00t! (^_^)b
thanks, I know I even asked for a recommendations tab (well tabs in general as a suggestion to unclutter the homepage) in my post a bit further up, but leaving the rest as it is is not enough since my suggestion was to hint to decluttering the rest, but it looks just as messy.
ReplyDeleteyou need to listen to the community guys, change it back THEN experiment on a beta that people can check and give feedback to, NOT scramble and try to fix this major f up that is this homepage.
love youtube hate this new homepage its really bad and that is putting it nicely i think we should get an option for which one we want .
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ReplyDeleteIT SUCKS!!!!!! STOP RUINING YOUTUBE!!!!!!!
ReplyDeleteyou are just making it worse and more worse...
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im gonna spam until you change it back
absolutely crap, wtf were you thinking when you change it. You keep on doing it, i think everyone liked the old one. You keep on ruining youtube, one day you will have no one going on it...
ReplyDeleteEVERYONE hates it, yet you still push this into our faces.
ReplyDeleteeven thouth you got a SMALL page for recommend for you it still doesn't make it better
ReplyDelete266/0 in favour of negative feedback
ReplyDeletedo something about it
There is not "You'll get used to it" here. It's been a few days and it's still horribly unusable to me.
ReplyDeleteYOUTUBE, you must take into account what your users are saying. I'm sure you've noticed your earnings drop, as we YouTubers/Partners have noticed our views/earnings drop too. All this is because the new Homepage ISN'T USER FRIENDLY. It would be ok if the Subscription Uploads were on default when you view the Homepage and the old grid style layout of the Subscriptions comes back. This design as it is, is ruining all our hard work as we're losing ALOT of views, Comments, Ratings etc.PLEASE FIX THIS.
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Its not about what you think is better for us its about what we think is better for us. I wish Steve Chen, Jawed Karim, and Chad Hurley still owned youtube instead of selling it to you "google" for 1.6 billion dollars of whatever. I understand your trying to make youtube better but by forcing us to enjoy it isn't going to work.
ReplyDeleteits not about what you think is better for us its about what we think is better for us. I wish Steve Chen, Jawed Karim, and Chad Hurley still owned youtube instead of selling it to you "google" for 1.6 billion dollars of whatever. I understand your trying to make youtube better but by forcing us to enjoy it isn't going to work.
ReplyDeleteI REALLY REALLY REALLY HATE THE NEW HOME PAGE. WHY DON"T WE HAVE AN OPTION TO KEEP THE OLD PAGE? I CAN SEE THAT MY FRIENDS, ALSO, ARE NOT USING YOUTUBE AS MUCH AS BEFORE. I LIKED HAVING A LOT MORE RECOMMENDATIONS THAN 12. I USED IT AS A JUMPING OFF POINT TO FIND NEW AND INTERESTING AVENUES. BUT NOW, WITH THE LIMITED NUMBER OF RECOMMENDED SELECTIONS, IT'S JUST REALLY BORING AND I FEEL LIKE I DON'T WANT TO VISIT YOUTUBE NEARLY AS MUCH. CHANGE IT BACK.
ReplyDeleteStill hating this stupid layout.
ReplyDeleteWhats the point of still having my previously watched subscriptions on the main homepage. Please Please at least sort this im having to sift through my own subscriptions just to not watch the same videos twice.
Sort it.
CHANGE IT BACK NOW YOUTUBE!!!!
ReplyDeleteNo one likes it.
ReplyDeleteStop changing things Youtube.
Or there will be no more Youtube...
do not want. change it back pweeeeeeeeeze
ReplyDeleteGive it a chance, youtube know what they are doing.
ReplyDeleteThey are taking over the world
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEAM32Y0khs
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ReplyDeleteROFL - Well blow me down, it looks as if the borg we minions call YouTube have actually read these comments and decided to change their home page. :-)
Well done YT.
PS Here's a tip for the next roll out. Liaise with your customers (that's us - the little people), and also give the option of letting us (the user) decide what WE want.
Thank you for listening YT.
The little envelope appearing when you have a new message, invite, or whatever doesn't work. It often doesn't recognize the message or whatever as being viewed and all the time doesn't show certain things like friend invites. Sort that out and I'll be happier. Other than that it's alright. I prefer the old one but it could be worse.
ReplyDeleteThankyou YouTube. I am used to the new channel page now, but I hope that this incessant fiddling what what actually works shall be the last. for me the latest YouTube anomaly is the no-playing of videos, where one just gets a blck screen with audio.
ReplyDeleteWe are told to delete the cache, go to the player settings, etc., but the sad fact is that it is only on the YouTube site that this problem is being experienced, not Facebook, not MySpace, or any other video-sharing website! This suggests that Once again, the YT operators have been fiddling around with vidoes once more; not being content with taking-away the HQ resolution of some vids and plastering ads all over the channel.
Bad management is the problem with tjhis site, and the inability or unwillingness to lsiten to its customers (unless they are paying ones that is)
The new homepage is horrid,it was fine and allot more functional as it was before.Also it seems my recommendations have gone to pot it's recommending me stuff I have no interest in whatsoever.
ReplyDeleteI tried to live with it but it's so un-user friendly.
Shared the home page on the you tube we can be used and understand regarding post.
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